Would readers take a gondola to Dodger Stadium from Union Station?
A number of hundred folks weighed in on a possible new strategy to attain Dodgers video games, first proposed by then-owner Frank McCourt in 2018 and nonetheless alive, now shepherded by an environmental group that hopes to take vehicles off the streets and hold pollution out of the air. We requested readers if they would or wouldn’t use the gondola, or if they weren’t positive.
By only a few votes, “yes” acquired probably the most responses. Listed below are the areas that readers cited probably the most as components of their selections:
Is Union Station simpler than Dodger Stadium tons?
A standard theme amongst respondents: Is the Union Station-to-Dodger Stadium route extra handy? Does it save time? For a lot of, the reply was a powerful no. However many individuals mentioned they’d use it for a wide range of causes.
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If I arrive on the boarding station at an inexpensive time earlier than first pitch, what assure do I’ve that I can’t be caught in line fairly than within the stadium half-hour later? And, after the sport, the final of these followers received’t be boarding their experience again till 60-plus minutes postgame … standing in line. And that’s simply to get again to the station.
The Stadium wants higher entry — I can afford to go to video games, in respectable seats, however I select to not as a result of the site visitors is ludicrous. The stadium desperately wants a number of accesses.
And … at the moment’s setting additionally calls for higher safety. Good luck to them in resolving their dilemma.
Reply: No
Chip Ossman, Altadena
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If enhancements in whole commute time and whole worth had been a internet optimistic I’d undoubtedly take it. If I’ve to Uber to the Expo Line to take it to Union Station after which get on the gondola, that seems like numerous work and the prices add up. Particularly if now we have a bunch.
Reply: Unsure
Patrick, Los Angeles
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I already park blocks away from the stadium and stroll there as a result of I detest the lot a lot. It’s straightforward to get into however a nightmare after the video games are over. A gondola would make going and leaving a lot simpler and take much less time.
Reply: Sure
Joe Kornbodt, Los Angeles
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How lengthy is the road going to be? The road for the present Union Station buses makes them impractical.
By my math and the numbers within the article (24 folks each 23 seconds), it could take virtually three hours to maneuver the ten,000 followers the article talks about. One thing doesn’t add up.
Fwiw, I’ve shared season tickets with others since 1992 and go to about 15 video games a yr.
Reply: Unsure
Wesley Monroe, Pasadena
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We’d like extra public transportation in Los Angeles. How enjoyable and simple. Practice to gondola to stadium. I’d go see a live performance there if it had been that straightforward.
Reply: Sure
Tamra Davis, Malibu
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I might take the prepare to L.A. from Ventura and never fear about site visitors. I’d undoubtedly come to extra video games.
Reply: Sure
Anita Guerrini, Ventura
Extra Frank McCourt?
Frank McCourt didn’t promote the Dodger Stadium parking tons when he bought the Dodgers for a billion-dollar revenue in 2012. As a substitute, profitable bidder Guggenheim Baseball Administration fashioned a three way partnership with a McCourt entity to regulate the parking tons. Although Mark Walter, the Dodgers’ chairman and controlling proprietor, mentioned McCourt can’t develop something on the property with out Guggenheim’s consent, McCourt’s identify was a trigger for concern for readers who provided their ideas.
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I drink beer earlier than entering into the stadium, my bladder couldn’t maintain it in for the seven minute (estimated experience time) and that’s together with the wait instances lol ….moreover, I hate that McCourt would one way or the other be concerned with this …can’t stand the dude, for the way in which he handled our Dodgers….anyway simply my opinion ✌️
Reply: Unsure
Tony Perez, Los Angeles
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It might be an journey and add to the thrill of recreation day, like going to Philippe’s earlier than the sport. I’m not thrilled a few ton of improvement there. I can also’t consider a single one who likes the thought of giving a lot as a penny to Frank McCourt.
Reply: Sure
Dan McCarrel, Diamond Bar
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Parking just isn’t a pleasing expertise at Dodger Stadium. I am going to 20-plus video games a yr and park in Chinatown to keep away from the effort. It’s a stroll of barely greater than a mile every manner and after the sport it’s downhill! A aspect bonus just isn’t paying McCourt any cash for parking. I’d hate to help something that advantages the man who tried to destroy the home team.
Reply: Unsure
Deborah Vogel, South Pasadena
Is it actually higher for the world?
It’s repulsive to me to have a gondola rising above the folks and homes of the neighborhood who’re close to Dodger Stadium. That neighborhood has needed to endure site visitors via the streets and now a gondola above them is horrible. The cons outweighs the professionals. That is one other instance of the wealthy exploiting the poor.
Reply: No
Susie Chow, Monterey Park
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I’m a resident locally and NO, I’d not set foot on the gondola. Residents like me would boycott and protest the gondola if it had been constructed. This isn’t an iconic vacationer attraction or progressive inexperienced transit resolution. That is an ill-conceived boondoggle that’s being pushed on us with a bunch of lies. If constructed, this gondola could be a monument to the exploitation and marginalization of our communities.
Moreover, what good is a seven-minute experience if you need to stand in line for an hour to board the gondola? And the place would everybody who drives to the gondola park? What good is it if the site visitors is simply redirected into our neighborhoods as an alternative of into Dodger Stadium? This gondola can be a toy for a choose few. Does anybody actually consider that the tickets will stay free, that they received’t finally jack up costs or cost an exorbitant membership charge for folks to leap the lengthy strains on the gondola stations? Nothing about this venture provides up.
Reply: No
Phyllis Ling, Los Angeles
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Individuals will both hold driving to the Dodger Stadium parking tons, or they will drive to Chinatown to be able to hop on the gondola. This can flip the neighborhood of Chinatown into the Dodger Stadium parking zone, which implies Chinatown will tackle much more of the car site visitors, noise, trash and public urination from beer-imbibing Dodger followers, and its residents will discover all of their avenue parking disappear on recreation days. In the meantime, these gondola cabins are proposed to be flying overhead (and never very excessive overhead both) each 30 seconds or so all yr lengthy? In service fewer than 100 recreation days and live performance days? At a ticket worth which stays unknown?
The stakeholders of Chinatown/Olvera Avenue had been by no means requested if we needed this — as an alternative, we had been informed that this was already within the works after which requested if we thought the renderings had been fairly. Individuals assume that the gondola cabins will soar excessive within the sky over Los Angeles, however they will largely be barely 30-40 toes above the pavement and above properties in some cases. They are going to minimize down a swath of mature bushes on the L.A. State Historic Park to be able to make room for the brand new station and the flight path. That is info you may solely entry for those who learn via the hundreds of pages of the DEIR (Draft Environmental Affect Report).
Reply: No
Tany Ling, Los Angeles
A matter of belief
Would wish to park and experience, simpler and quicker to only drive to Dodger Stadium.
Additionally, many depart the stadium drunk or amped up, I’d not wish to share a small gondola, particularly when with household.
Reply: No
Russ Randall, Santa Clarita
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My considerations concerning the gondola embrace earthquakes and energy outages. What would occur to passengers in both case? Additionally what number of properties or companies would displaced? Dodger Stadium already has a tainted historical past in that regard.
Reply: Unsure
Lisa Babilonia, Nev.
Extra improvement?
I might take Metro and skip the site visitors fully. It’s the one manner I’d think about going to see a recreation — particularly if there are bars and eating places making it extra of an leisure vacation spot all yr. It’s nicely previous time for residents and guests to the world to have the ability to go to main locations without having to drive within the (world well-known!) unhealthy site visitors.
Reply: Sure
David Swift, Pasadena
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The gondola could be a world-class attraction for L.A.!! Stop worrying about who might revenue. I don’t like Frank any greater than you do, however having procuring, eating, and flats close to the ballpark is smart. Take a look at how Anaheim has created a whole house village round their ballpark. It’s attracted hundreds of younger individuals who by no means would have thought of Anaheim. We’d like extra housing. Everybody opposes city sprawl and constructing in fire-prone areas exterior the town … everybody opposes constructing inside the town … that’s why there’s a lot corruption for getting buildings accredited via metropolis corridor. Is it any shock now we have a housing scarcity?!!! Embody some reasonably priced housing so a number of the stadium staff reside close by.
Reply: Sure
Dave Schafer, Torrance
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Parking is dear and tough. Plus, the gondola additionally serves Cornfields Park and the eating places in that neighborhood for earlier than/after recreation enjoyable.
I additionally help redeveloping these parking tons into one thing way more helpful than black asphalt. It’s a disgraceful waste of land when there’s a chance for the town to dealer a win-win-win situation (extra parkland, much less floor parking, centrally situated housing, and extra engaging retailers/companies/eating places). There’s additionally an opportunity to construct a whole neighborhood from a clear slate that includes at the moment’s finest practices for sustainability, walkability, and so forth.
Reply: Sure
Jeff Farrington, Echo Park
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